Ep. 10 – Having a “Faith Based Entrepreneurship” with Jenasa Prudhomme

[00:00:00] Kam: First of all, I wanna thank Jenasa so much for coming onto my podcast in this episode. I am really looking forward to this conversation, and I thank you so much for being here, especially during, um, a nap time.

[00:00:14] Jenasa: Yeah, of course. Thank you for having me on.

[00:00:16] Kam: So what yeah, for sure. If you could tell my listeners, first of all, where you’re based outta and what you got going on with your business, and then I want to definitely talk about, um, talk about your story.

[00:00:33] Jenasa: Okay, well I am from Maine. I’ve b was born and raised in Maine and I still live here. And my daily life, basically I’m a wife, mom and I run a ministry. I have the hashtag Create Your Earth Life podcast. Um, and it’s on YouTube as well. And then I do some social media, and that’s, that’s basically my life in.

[00:00:57] Jenasa: Summary to paint a picture. I, you know, wake up every day, take care of the baby, make breakfast, clean the house, work on ministry work during, um, nap time, and about it. I have two, I have two sons. I have a, a nine month old and a seven year old.

[00:01:15] Kam: Oh, nice. So the seven year old is probably at school then? Or do you homeschool?

[00:01:20] Jenasa: seven year old goes to a public school currently. Um, but we are thinking about homeschooling our nine month old when he’s old enough. We’re not really sure what we wanna do. Um, but yeah, that’s definitely on the radar. Homeschool is definitely on the radar.

[00:01:33] Kam: Been there and I’ve had, so I’ve done public school, private school, and homeschool. So

[00:01:39] Jenasa: tried it all.

[00:01:41] Kam: but that’s a totally different

[00:01:43] Jenasa: Yeah.

[00:01:43] Kam: We, we’ve done that all. So, and you just have to fold them where they’re bent and, you know, we’re whatever they need, so,

[00:01:52] Jenasa: absolutely.

[00:01:53] Kam: But, um, and it’s the name of your website and your, your online stuff that drew my attention. And I want you to expound on this because at first I could see that, I’m thinking that you probably got your name from new age type of thing, but I’ll let you go into that. Why don’t you explain,

[00:02:19] Jenasa: So the podcast did not start as a Christian podcast, um, before 2020 or the beginning of 2020 is when I started the podcast and I was seeking, God. I had not been saved yet. I didn’t know anything about Jesus I was seeking God. And with the that had happened, I was at home a lot.

[00:02:43] Jenasa: I was outta work and. I said, I was seeking, looking for fulfillment, and I started using roons and terra cards and crystals every day. And I started sharing about this spiritual journey that I was on, on the podcast. And then August, 2020, Jesus saved me out of the New Age, and then the podcast turned into a Christian podcast.

[00:03:07] Jenasa: It converted with me. And um, Yeah, so that’s, that’s where the title came from. It was a very new ag title, but I’ve never felt convicted to change it. And I actually feel like if I leave it that way, that maybe people who are in the new age will see the title and be like, oh, this is what I’m into creating my own life. And then they might get some biblical wisdom and get close to Jesus. Um, in, in, in the hopes of I would be able to plant seeds in people’s minds and that God can grow them.

[00:03:39] Jenasa: And, um, It is true though that we though God is in control, we do have a choice. He has created us not to be robots and to have a choice of are we gonna follow him or are we gonna follow the world. So we do have a little bit of a choice in how our life is created while we’re here. Um, but all in all, it is God’s plan.

[00:04:02] Kam: And at any point, like, because you had this podcast, and I’m assuming you had a following based on what you had started the podcast on, did you feel like, well, maybe I should not do a podcast? You know, because now I’ve, I’ve changed everything I you know, God does different things. But did you ever think, well, maybe, maybe this isn’t what I’m supposed to do? Or did you feel like naturally, um, like you said, it evolved with you?

[00:04:35] Jenasa: it just naturally evolved with me. I never thought about not having it. The only thing that I thought about not having, was my Instagram, my social media, Instagram my personal page. I had a lot of people on there, probably like 900 people that were not friends or family of mine. They were just people on the internet that I did not have close connections with, and they were following me because my page public and I was sharing, you know, a lot of stuff towards the end.

[00:05:06] Jenasa: Before I got saved by Jesus, um, I was I guess you guys, I don’t wanna say promiscuous, but I, I posted things that were just not appropriate of my body I definitely posted spiritual stuff. I posted, um, some poetry. I posted a lot of things that came. From the new age that was connected to the new age. And when I got saved, um, I, I know in the Bible it says that people are gonna hate you, you’re gonna have enemies. But the first time I posted on my Instagram about Jesus, about being saved, I had a really bad feedback. Like a couple people were like, what are you talking about?

[00:05:43] Jenasa: Like, no, no guy in the sky changed your life like you did it yourself and like Jesus isn’t real. And I was definitely a little softer at the time and it definitely hit me and I was like, oh my goodness. And so. Yeah, it was a little scary. And then I decided to make, um, a business page Instagram, which is what I use mostly.

[00:06:05] Jenasa: And then I, after I had my son recently nine months ago, I decided to delete everyone off my personal page that I did not know closely because I just didn’t want a bunch of strangers seeing my children. You know, my, my point of views have changed and I’ve started to understand how the world is cursed and, you know, we, we need to protect our children and our families, and I can’t have my.

[00:06:27] Jenasa: Page out there like that, but I can have a business page.

[00:06:30] Kam: And I don’t wanna go too far down, um, a rabbit hole, but how did your husband react? Like is he a Christian or is, um, I mean, how, how did that relationship go?

[00:06:43] Jenasa: that is actually part of my testimony and it’s, it’s pretty interesting. I think it’s pretty interesting. Funny. So I met my husband August 20, 21 week after I got saved, and I was also. Pregnant with twins. I was a surrogate mother. I was pregnant with twins and I was in my eighth month, eighth trim yeah, eight months of pregnancy.

[00:07:05] Jenasa: So I was like, huge. And right before I got saved by Jesus, I just was very heartbroken. I’d been hurt a lot by different men and. I just had this belief that love was not real. And I was like, the only love that there is is between a parent and a child. That is it. I’m not dating. I’m so done with all this.

[00:07:26] Jenasa: Like, I’m so upset. And I really felt my heart break. And I was also doing reiki on myself, and I remember reaching out to someone who was like a reiki master, and they’re like, yeah, I, I, I, I said, don’t feel like the reikis working. Like, what should I do? And their advice was, well just keep doing the reiki.

[00:07:43] Jenasa: Like it’ll eventually work and nothing was working. And immediately after I was saved by Jesus. My heart healed and I said to my best friend, I, I think I wanna start dating again. And she was like, basically like, okay, like you’re crazy. You were eight months pregnant with twins. You’re huge. Like, what kind of man are you going to attract? the.

[00:08:04] Jenasa: There was like a bunch of guys on the, on the, I went on a, on the on Hinge. It’s an app, a dating app, and there was a bunch of guys I talked to, but they, you could tell they weren’t paying attention. They’re like, oh, you wanna go get tequila and tacos? And I’m like, I’m eight months pregnant now. I don’t wanna do that. And my husband is the only one that I was talking to and we were talking about spirituality in the Bible and he wasn’t a Christian at the time. And then we went on a date and we just knew.

[00:08:33] Jenasa: We dated a, we went on like three dates and Jesus says by the third date, he like basically knew that he was like going to love me and that he like that things were different with us. And then six months later picked out a ring and then, you know, two months later after that, so about eight months into the relationship we got married.

[00:08:50] Kam: Nice. I love that. That’s so sweet. And what is your testimony like, how did you, how did, where were you when, when Jesus found you?

[00:09:05] Jenasa: So, I was actually in bed and I was scrolling social media, specifically Facebook, and it was like midnight. And I just, you know, you know that bad habit of scrolling your phone before bed or while you’re in bed. And my cousin, um, her name’s Kimberly and she was raised in a Christian home. She went to Christian schools and colleges.

[00:09:29] Jenasa: She got married. And then some bad stuff happened in her marriage and she said, I don’t, I don’t believe in God anymore. And she started doing witchcraft. She started drinking. She started like anytime she didn’t have our kids. She was doing something to give herself pleasure and make herself feel better.

[00:09:44] Jenasa: And she was very depressed and suicidal and just really, you know, and just, just totally. Put God to the side and her family is all Christian and they were worried about her and she, she wouldn’t listen to them at all. And um, so she had posted a video on Facebook from YouTube and it was said like my testimony or something like that.

[00:10:07] Jenasa: And I was like, my, and my thought was, oh, this is a 40 minute video. I’m not actually gonna watch the whole thing, but I’ll watch a little bit of it cause it’s late at. Whatever. I have nothing else to do. So I turned it on. I watched the whole thing and she started talking about how like Jesus Christ was the way and like told her a whole story about what happened to her and how she had left Jesus Christ behind, and how she was doing demonic things.

[00:10:29] Jenasa: Like she was, um, can’t remember what’s called, it starts with a p, it’s like project, like she was trying to projectile, I think it’s called Outta Your Body. Like, and she was doing stuff where she was like coming

[00:10:39] Kam: Okay.

[00:10:40] Jenasa: Um, and she had an experience with God where God, She said she literally like heard him say like, Don’t you remember all the stuff I have done for you? And she said things just changed. Like she heard his voice, she said, she said a week before that if someone would’ve come up to me and talked to me about God, I would’ve blew them off and walked away. But she said, God like came to me and she started talking about how. All the new age stuff was demonic and I didn’t even know I was in the new age.

[00:11:05] Jenasa: Like I had no idea that was what it was called, what I was doing. I was just like, oh, I’m spiritual. And she started saying like, Terra cards, ruins, all that stuff is demonic and you should get rid of it and you should buy a Bible and you should start praying. and I did, I never touched that stuff again, other than to pick it up and get rid of it. And I bought a Bible on Amazon and I started praying and my life completely and totally changed in so many different ways.

[00:11:33] Jenasa: for starters, like my heart was softened and I met my husband a week later. Um, another thing is my mom and I never had great relationship. Um, she was a single mom and we had ups and downs in our relat. All the time. And at this point I’d gotten to a point where I was like, I don’t want her in my life anymore. And you know, the world says if someone is, if it’s not working out with someone, if you think they’re toxic, cut ’em off. And the Bible says, and Jesus says, Forgive them and to honor your mother and father.

[00:12:05] Jenasa: And when I started reading that, I was like, well, I don’t want to, but if Jesus is telling me to do it, then I’m gonna try it. And I started praying every day asking Jesus like, please help me forgive my mom. Please help me. Like. Honor her, please. Like please, please, please. And I started reading the scripture every single day that said this information. And then it took, took a few months and I got to a point where I like, truly felt I could forgive her for whatever had happened in the past.

[00:12:32] Jenasa: And I texted her and, you know, and then now, months later, um, been like over a year and our relationship is great, and she’s like, literally says, I see a difference in you because of Jesus. And I’m starting to get her closer to him, like I’m starting to share the gospel with her. So it’s been amazing. I’ve been able to forgive people. I’ve been able to have compassion. I’ve been able to stop being revengeful.

[00:12:57] Jenasa: Um, the anxiety and depression that I had before has gone away, and I wanna say that lightly because though that is huge, a lot of people will say, well, I’m a Christian and I still have depression, anxiety, and I think God uses everything for his glory.

[00:13:12] Jenasa: So whether you’re a Christian and you have depression or you got saved and your depression went away, like God’s gonna use it all. And that’s just part of my story is that I, I did have depression. I did feel like I was demonically oppressed, and I had really bad anxiety to the point where I felt paralyzed at times and I couldn’t get outta bed.

[00:13:29] Jenasa: And then it would turn into like depression and feeling bad and having difficulty taking care of my son. And I was always in bad relationships and I could say, you know, being saved. Took away all the bad stuff, like the relationships and the bad choices I was making to drinking to cope, smoking marijuana to cope, and maybe that took away the depression anxiety, but I give all the glory to God because I have not felt the way I did before since I got saved by Jesus

[00:13:55] Kam: I love that. And you know, he uses. All of our testimonies and, and I, I love how you have taken what he has done in your life. And, and this isn’t the focus, um, on this podcast, but I do want to, you know, sprinkle it in that I’m a Christian, I’m saved by Jesus.

[00:14:20] Kam: I love connecting with other people who have or have not, because like you said, you know, moving, kinda keeping your name. Your business and everything that you’re doing, hopefully we can attract, you know, other people and be the light and the salt that we’re called to be. And so I love that. I love how on fire you are. Don’t ever let that go out. The world will try and so you just keep, keep burning. I love it.

[00:14:50] Kam: So let’s get into your book. Now. You have this testimony, you have this amazing. Last couple of years. And I love too, how God has taken things out of 2020 and made these amazing stories and businesses and ideas and that kind of thing, you know?

[00:15:12] Kam: And I really think that we see the creativity of how we were created come out of these difficult. So let’s get into your book. You have a new book out. Now is this an ebook or can people purchase, um, like a hard cover or paperback as well?

[00:15:29] Jenasa: an ebook, but they can print it off once they receive it in their email.

[00:15:35] Kam: Sure. Okay. And so this is called Faith-Based Entrepreneurship. Um, There, it says in the title ebook, Beginners Guide, the Online Business World, which that’s what I do want to, you know, bring into this, you know, talking to other parents especially people who are trying to raise little people and do an online business, it’s not easy.

[00:16:05] Kam: It’s not going to be easy, but it can be rewarding. And so on some of your so in, in your list of some of the things that are in your book, how to Put God First in your Business, exploring Niches, all of the details of starting a blog. Plug what with web hosting WordPress, theme plugins and monetization, how to start and run a podcast and how to create and grow on your YouTube, and I know you’re you’re busy on YouTube and with your podcast, so I mean, that’s with a nine month old especially

[00:16:45] Jenasa: Oh yeah.

[00:16:48] Kam: So where, what, what, where did this book come from? What’s the story behind the book?

[00:16:53] Jenasa: been working on the online space for the past about three years. I have my podcast, my YouTube, the social medias. I’ve tried many other things. Um, but now that I am a mom of a young one, I need to, I can’t, I can’t spread myself too thin. So I need to have more of a focus. So right now my focus is the podcast, podcast platforms and YouTube.

[00:17:14] Jenasa: And then occasionally I go on social media. Brian not to go on too much because I have found, um, social media can be very addicting. It can be a distraction and it can be an idol. Um, but I do think it is a great tool. It’s a great way to connect with people. I’ve met a lot of amazing people. Um, I have, you know, just I have. Internet friends, you know, actual internet Christian friends who do a lot of the same stuff I do, who have podcasts and our entrepreneurs.

[00:17:44] Jenasa: So that’s really cool. Um, but I wanted to create this ebook because when I started my blog, I don’t currently write on it right now, but. Putting the blog together was extremely hard. it, it took like three weeks and all my time during the day, um, for many days. And at the time I didn’t have my youngest son. And so my other son, he goes to his dad’s 50% of the time and he also,

[00:18:14] Kam: Okay.

[00:18:15] Jenasa: is in school. So had a lot

[00:18:18] Kam: Okay.

[00:18:19] Jenasa: to do all that. But it, it, it’s so time consuming and there’s so much to learn when you create a blog.

[00:18:25] Jenasa: And then the same thing with a podcast, and the same thing with social media. There’s so much information out there on pod on different podcasts. You can listen to entrepreneur podcasts, you can listen to, YouTube channels. You, there’s so much information out there, but it’s a lot. And if you don’t have time, if you’re working full-time and you wanna start an online business, It’s gonna be very time consuming.

[00:18:47] Jenasa: So I wanted to put everything I knew into one place. So when people buy this book, they can say, okay, this is where I can start. Like they can find clarity, um, they can learn how to put God first, cuz I believe God is the c e o of our business. Um, and that we should always be praying and asking for guidance from him and that we should only be doing this if God is calling him or calling. To be on the online space.

[00:19:13] Jenasa: Um, and I think you can use a ministry online or a business online as part of the great commission of bringing people to Jesus, um, and planting those seeds and helping the kingdom grow. So those are all the reasons I created this ebook is to help people get started immediately, to have the information right in front of them so they know what to do, where to go, um, and how to do things and to consistent. So you have success

[00:19:41] Kam: So where would you start if you were to do it all again, where would you start?

[00:19:48] Jenasa: man. Um, that is a great question and, and, and it’s a hard question to answer because I really do let God lead the way. Um, and I, I started with the podcast and I probably would’ve started with the pod. I’d probably start with the podcast again. Um, mostly because I, I love the podcast. I love speaking, um, I love talking to other people. I love sharing information, you know, through, through speaking.

[00:20:12] Jenasa: But you might not be someone, someone who’s listening might say, oh, I don’t, I don’t. Speaking in front of people. I don’t like to be on camera. I, I like to write. Then maybe they need to start with blogging. Um, but first, of course, always pray. Or maybe they like to create like digital images, then maybe they need to start on social media. so those are like things that you can look at in this ebook and figure out like, what, what are my skills? What do I like, what would work best for?

[00:20:42] Kam: No, and that’s a good point. Now, when you were talking about how your blog took you three weeks. Building a website as well, around it? Or did you go to like a DIY website? Like how did you start that?

[00:20:58] Jenasa: website host called Blue Host, basically you have to, find, um, Sorry, I’m, the word is not coming to me, but you need to find like your design for the website you need to put, put together. Like what do you want on there? Do you want an intro? Where do you want it on the website? Like there’s so much information and stuff that you could put on the website, but then you had to figure out where to put it.

[00:21:22] Jenasa: And after a few weeks of doing everything on my own, I did end up having to call them and say like, here is a list I had like, of questions that I could not figure out. Um, so I have a lot of that information in the ebook because it is things that, you know, some of the things other people might be able to figure out on their own. But some of them, there’s just a lot of questions, a lot, a lot goes into creating a website and getting your blog up.

[00:21:49] Kam: Now for most of my listeners, they’re gonna be crafters. and they probably won’t start a podcast, but like the blog is, you know, a great option. I can see, you know, doing more reels, you know, on video. Um, is it Twitch, I think is the app that you can do like a live, I know a lot of gamers use it, um, but I also know a lot of crafters use it too to kinda show their process.

[00:22:21] Kam: So do you do a lot on social media as the tool? Which I know there’s this fine line of staying off of social media. Audience, but using it as the tool, and I go back and forth. So what do you feel about, you know, the Twitch, TikTok, YouTube using the videos?

[00:22:44] Jenasa: found,

[00:22:44] Kam: you gone into that at all?

[00:22:46] Jenasa: I really like podcasting. Um, I think that’s just a great and I really like shorts, so they’re like reels and cuz a lot of people, a lot more people see your shorts and people’s attention spans are pretty short nowadays anyways. So. People really enjoy that.

[00:23:02] Jenasa: So I, personally, my goal is to grow my podcast. growing my pod podcast, it is known that it’s easier to convert someone to go to your podcast when they hear you on someone else’s podcast. As it is, than it, it’s, it’s less easy to convert someone from Instagram. to your podcast cuz they’re already on the site.

[00:23:26] Jenasa: So they’re on Instagram, they’re scrolling, they see a clip of your podcast and they, um, They say, oh, that’s interesting, and they keep going. Whereas when they’re already on a podcast app and they hear you on a podcast, and if they are like, oh, that person sounds interesting, or they have something that I’d like, or I wanna hear more of them, they’re already on the podcast app, they’re more likely to go to your podcast, subscribe and listen to a few of your episodes.

[00:23:51] Jenasa: And that’s the best way to grow your podcast. and then of course, YouTube. YouTube seems to be going well. I’m still figuring stuff out. The, the key on YouTube is using the right keywords. Um, you, before you post something on YouTube, you look up you’re about to post. You look up and see what other people’s titles are, and then when people watch the, that title of someone else’s and say they have a lot of views, then your, your video could pop up after. I hope that makes sense.

[00:24:25] Kam: No. And that’s, that’s, yeah, with all the seo. That’s a great tip. So are you gonna be doing any courses out of your ebook? Have you thought about doing any of those?

[00:24:36] Jenasa: not sure, like I’ve thought about coaching. I would like to do one-on-one coaching, um, at some point. And I, I love to help people and I wanna help people learn new things and be successful online. But you know, I have a nine month old, so time is. Yeah.

[00:24:54] Kam: that? Yeah. Being a, being a parent is definitely like, you have to work around that. . So yeah, we have six and four at home, so, but none of them are little people. They can all feed and take care of themselves. So , I don’t have to worry about that, but, so what is next on your agenda? Other, I mean, we’re gonna push the book, but what are

[00:25:24] Jenasa: Yeah.

[00:25:25] Kam: next?

[00:25:25] Kam: Kind of waiting on.

[00:25:26] Jenasa: for 2023, I have two things going on. I have the ebook, and then I also have, um, a gospel Bible study series on YouTube and my pla and my podcast platforms, um, where every single week we will dive into the gospel we are going to be, Dissecting it, understanding what it means, and then also looking at the background.

[00:25:51] Jenasa: So what was it like at the time of when Jesus was here? um, just like paint a picture so people have an understanding. And of course, always, always rely on the Holy Spirit. Um, but yeah, I just really wanna help people get closer to Jesus. I think the most important thing that there is, is to share the gospel and yeah, that’s what I wanna focus on.

[00:26:14] Kam: and when is that planning on coming out?

[00:26:17] Jenasa: in January.

[00:26:18] Kam: I might have to have you on again. I might have to have you on again. Oh, that’s coming out in January. Oh, wow. You’re a busy girl.

[00:26:29] Jenasa: all my time. I try to use all my time wisely. I’m, I am pretty busy

[00:26:32] Kam: Now going back to the podcast, I like how you pointed out that you can definitely connect people through podcasting and maybe that is something that crafters need to consider. You don’t have to do long. You know, episodes and you can just do shorties and doing videos of what you do, how you do it, that kinda thing.

[00:26:54] Kam: That’s actually not a bad idea. Now, what platform do you like to put your podcast on? I mean, other than promoting it on YouTube, where do you, where do you host it?

[00:27:07] Jenasa: yeah, so I have YouTube. I, I try to do every single platform that there is. So um, iTunes, every single one on multiple r s s feeds where they will tell you they have like their own blog and then they’ll tell you like, have you subscribed to all these, um, different platforms? And I’ve signed up I think for every single one. Um, so is, I, I think that’s important cuz so people listen to so many different platforms.

[00:27:43] Kam: Yeah. And that’s, that’s absolutely true. And they’re usually on their phone when they do it. Do you put it in anchor or do you put it in bus sprout or do you use something different?

[00:27:53] Jenasa: actually use r just, it’s just called, called r s s, that’s all it’s called. I, I do pay $10 a month for it, so I had been thinking about switching to a one that’s free. Um, but I really, I really do like it. Analytics and it has a place where you can, um, sign people up for ads and everything, but I’m sure there are. RSS feeds that I could use. I just haven’t had the time to look into it, so yeah, I just use one. It’s called rss.com.

[00:28:18] Kam: well. I use Anchor. I also use Buzz Sprout for a client of mine. And both are are good. I’ve, um, never looked at rss. Just that must just be the straight, straight website like coming cuz that’s what everybody needs, um, iTunes and um, iHeartRadio, they all need that rss. So I, that might not be a bad idea to stay, stay where you are, but, but that, that’s a great option to share.

[00:28:50] Kam: So how many podcasts are you up to now?

[00:28:52] Jenasa: I’m at almost 130 episodes. Yeah.

[00:28:58] Kam: Okay. And how often do you put episodes?

[00:29:02] Jenasa: try to do once a week, and starting in January, it should be one to two times a week with the both, um, the, the Bible study, gospel Bible Study Series, and then also I’m going to be sharing faith pa, faith-based entrepreneur tips. Try to do weekly, so it should be one to two times a week. I try my best to commit to it, you know, again, I’m a stay-at-home mom and wife and if we get sick or something, like I, I don’t have time to always edit things or, you know, but I’ve been really keeping myself on track lately and I’ve been really working on, um, consistency that is, that is where my weakness was, consistency.

[00:29:43] Jenasa: Cuz I would do something for a little bit and then I would stop for a couple months. So I’m really, really working on being consistent. Um,

[00:29:51] Kam: and what, so I wanna know what your tips are because I struggle with this myself. Time management is not a strength of mine. I get distracted easily. So what are some tips that a crafting parent, you know, with little people around. What are, what are some suggestions that you would have for them?

[00:30:13] Jenasa: thing is routine. Um, in the morning I wake up and usually I end up doing dishes first, and then making breakfast and getting my son and my husband and myself fed, and then I make sure the. Floor is safe for the baby to crawl around. And then I will sit down on the couch and check my emails and check some other stuff, um, on the computer.

[00:30:36] Jenasa: And then when it’s nap time, I put ’em down and then I have a list every day I write a list of like, what needs to be done today? Like what has to be done? Um, do I need to email certain people back? Do I need to to. Record a podcast, do I need to edit it? And then I go from there. And I try not to be too hard on myself if I don’t get stuff done.

[00:30:57] Jenasa: Um, and then another thing that’s been super helpful is, you know, people say it takes a, a village to raise children and obviously to do other things too. Um, my mom will come over every couple weeks, like she came over, I think it was yesterday, and she watched my son for an hour so I could record a couple podcasts. So that’s been really helpful.

[00:31:20] Kam: and that, that is really helpful. I know we didn’t quite have that, so my tip for that is to exchange, like find a friend who maybe has a, a little one or time that they just wanna exchange. So, but no, that’s, that’s awesome. Now, what days do you usually record podcast?

[00:31:42] Jenasa: not have a specific day. I just record when I can or when I need

[00:31:46] Kam: Okay.

[00:31:46] Jenasa: Yeah, I don’t have a strategy. I know some people will have strategies where they’ll have, one day they, they batch record, then the next day they edit and then the next day they post or something like that. I do not have that kind of routine or schedule put in place currently.

[00:32:04] Kam: No, and that’s good to know too. Now, do you do stuff when everybody goes to bed, or are you exhausted and need your sleep?

[00:32:12] Jenasa: exhausted, but I actually after um, the children go to sleep, that is my husband and i’s time cuz he works late. He works until about eight 30 every night. So once he’s home, the kids are in bed, the house is picked up. Um, I make sure he has dinner and then we sit and watch TV for a couple hours and hang out and do whatever we wanna do.

[00:32:30] Jenasa: And I try not to push it like during the day I do a lot. So at night I tell myself like, you ha, you. Stop at some point and you need to spend time with your husband. So, um, I do put like boundaries if there is like a deadline or if I’m like, I really need to get this done, or I’m just like feeling real heated and I’m like, I have so much energy to do this.

[00:32:48] Jenasa: Um, my husband’s understanding. And sometimes I’ll take like an hour at night and work. But otherwise, no. I really try to just have that time for my husband after the kids go to bed.

[00:33:00] Kam: Well, and you guys are still newlyweds too. Newlyweds, newly parenting

[00:33:06] Jenasa: Yeah.

[00:33:06] Kam: lot of news, so, so with your ebook, what would be some tips, some, something that you want everybody to take away and how do you feel this will help Crafters especially.

[00:33:25] Jenasa: So I think, um, is important is there are so many different platforms. There’s, you know, obviously YouTube and social medias and stuff like that. I think what’s really important is that you have your own space. So I know not everyone has a website, but if you can, um, crafters, like a good idea would be like, you could create a freebie and have like how to make, um, I don’t know what would be something a crafter would make. I’m not a craft like super crafty don’t make anything other than like food but

[00:34:00] Kam: Tips on how to start, start a project or something like that. Are you talking like magnet type of thing?

[00:34:06] Jenasa: what I’m saying is it’s important, like you can grow a very big social media platform. You can have a lot of followers, but that can be taken away from you at any time. So I think what’s important is having an email list, um, and. What I’ve learned and what I’ve put in the ebook is to start an email list and to grow an email list is to offer something for free. you could offer like tips to creating, you know, something like, like give information about how to craft something that other people will want.

[00:34:37] Jenasa: And you know, to get that, you just put your email in and then it’ll be sent to you and then you start growing your email list. So if you are taken off any platform, you have all these people’s emails and you can send them emails and say, Hey just checking in with you.

[00:34:50] Jenasa: Just wanna let you know I have this new craft that I’ve created, that I’m selling now on Etsy or whatever. Check it out. It’s 20% off, you know, and I’ve heard a lot of people, um, They have good results on selling through their emails. So I think that’s one thing that’s important is, um, learning how to do stuff like that.

[00:35:08] Jenasa: Cuz when I first learned about email list, I’m like, well how do I get people to sign up? You know, it’s not as easy as like, Hey, sign up for my email list. Cuz a lot of people are like, I get a lot of emails, I don’t want emails. What are you gonna send me? But if they are getting something free, um, they’re more likely to sign up. And that’s of what stores do when you go shopping.

[00:35:27] Jenasa: They’re like, Here. If we could get your email, we’ll give you 20% off. The next time you come in, it’s the same thing. Um, so that is one tip that I think is important and can be used for any business or ministry.

[00:35:41] Kam: and how did you start your email?

[00:35:43] Jenasa: have two freebies, so I have one. That is for parents to help, um, parents throughout the dout the day teach their children about God. So little ideas that you can do throughout the day to teach your children about God. Like one of the ideas is when you’re in the car, you can, um, turn on a children’s. study podcasts, and there’s like a lot of cute ones, um, where they share a story and they talk about Jesus and they’re really interesting. And my son, who’s seven, he really enjoys ’em. And he’s like, oh, I didn’t know that about Jesus. Or, oh, is that true Mama? And you know, he gets really into it. Um, and there’s other tips.

[00:36:20] Jenasa: And then I have another freebie, which is a prayer journal. so that includes,

[00:36:28] Kam: Can I get to those? Can I get the links to those and I’ll put ’em in the show notes.

[00:36:34] Jenasa: Um, yeah, the Projo Journal includes like

[00:36:37] Kam: Okay.

[00:36:37] Jenasa: and being helpful and forgiveness and just information like that. Um, so yeah, so I’ve created a couple of freebies and then you obviously need to share them online and encourage people if they, if that’s what they want.

[00:36:50] Jenasa: Then, you know, they just put their email on and they.

[00:36:55] Kam: Now, did the, did your growth come from the podcast or did your podcast grow from your email?

[00:37:01] Jenasa: I’d say my growth came, a, a few places. Um, I’d say Pinterest was a good place. I’m not consistent on Pinterest right now, but there was a time where I shared about, um, one of the freebies and it had a lot of views and I, my email list grew and then, um, Probably social media and the podcast. my podcast has just been growing on itself.

[00:37:27] Jenasa: Like it just keeps increasing. Um, and I’ve, I’ve definitely learned to use SEO and keywords and stuff. Um, and that’s been really helpful.

[00:37:34] Kam: Well, I will be anxious to read that part in your book. So any final thoughts? Jenasa, this has been an awesome chat and I don’t wanna keep you any longer because I know nap time is going to end too soon, But do you have any final thoughts for a crafty entrepreneur?

[00:37:56] Jenasa: I just think my final thought would be just keep doing it. If you feel God has called you to be an crafty entrepreneur and you know, even if things aren’t going perfect right now, if God has called you to it, then he has a plan for you and he’s gonna make things work cuz he can make the impossible possible.

[00:38:14] Jenasa: And um, there are a couple things that we look at in the world. We look at other people and we say, oh wow, they grew really fast and they’re selling a lot. And that could do two things to us. One that. Set us and I think that we’re not good enough, or two that can give us hope and say, Hey, they did it. God made that happen for them. He can make it happen for me.

[00:38:32] Jenasa: And then another thing is statistics. Um, statistically when you look it up, it takes three years for you to start earning money, um, as an entrepreneur. And that can, again, that could be like, oh, that’s so long. Or that could be like giving you hope. But all in all, that information said it is God’s plan. And if God wants to hap wants it to happen, he’s gonna make it happen. And if he’s called you there and he hasn’t stopped you, then keep going at it.

[00:38:59] Jenasa: Be consistent. Um, Yeah. And, and another thing I learned recently that could give people hope is that for someone to buy a product, they need to see it seven times. So don’t be afraid to post about your products over and over and over and over again, because some of those people might not have seen it. Um, but you, you know, it’s, you get down in your head like, oh, I’m being annoying. They, they already saw it, but they might not have. So just be consistent. Get, get out there, get outta your comfort zone and just know it’s God’s plan.

[00:39:30] Kam: I love it. Great, great nuggets. I love that thought. So I appreciate you taking the time so much. Janessa , I hope you get a little bit more time before nap time ends to just have a cup of, do you drink coffee?

[00:39:48] Jenasa: do

[00:39:48] Kam: Okay, go have a cup of coffee. And of course, I guess on the East Coast you’re looking at lunch, aren’t you? So, but all right. Well I appreciate it. Thank you so much. And I will definitely be having you back on again, and so you can tell me how successful this book was.

[00:40:08] Jenasa: you so much Camie, and I hope you have a great day,

[00:40:13] Kam: Thank you. We’ll talk soon.